Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-12343352-20170716212429/@comment-28396600-20180907050309

Why are so many people so bothered by the latest Muppet movie, The Happytime Murders? People are like,

"Oh no! The Muppets are making adult jokes. This is awful!". But honestly, The Muppets have never been aimed primarily towards kids. Believe it or not, it is a proven fact that Jim Henson had originally TURNED DOWN Sesame Street when he was asked to do the show because he wanted to destroy the stereotype that puppets are just kid stuff. He had originally planned for The Muppets to be an edgy show meant specifically for older teens and adults. He ended up changing his mind and doing Sesame Street anyway but only because educating children is important regardless of what your entertainment preferences are. He had also originally wanted to title the Muppet Show "Sex and Violence", I'm not even kidding. The only reason he didn't go through with that name is because the networks wouldn't allow him to create a show with the word "sex" in the title, this was the 1970s after all. But when you think about it, most of the humor in the original Muppet Show was targeted directly towards adults. Pretty much every other joke was in one way another some sort of parental bonus or getting crap past the radar gag. Here are some examples of some the old Muppets edgier moments:

-Fozzie Bear starts to lust over '70s adult film actress, Raquel Welch who was known for being overly sexy. She tells Fozzie "Why don't you come into my dressing rom tonight and we could have a little you know, fun together. That sure would be sextravagant!". I have absolutely no idea how the censors didn't even attempt to bleep out "sextravagant" back in the 1970s. That was the same era were it was considered lewd to make so much as a fart joke on TV, it boggles my mind as to how THAT one slipped past the radar.

-Shock rock star, Alice Cooper guest starred in one episode. You know, the guy who parents hated back in the '70s and blamed for the juvenile delinquency of children. The guy who's concert were loaded with more fake blood and gore than every episode of both Family Guy and Drawn Together combined. The guy who did hit songs with titles such as "Dead Babies", "Welcome To My Nightmare", and "Raped in the Freezing Cold". Yeah, that guy! His guest appearance on The Muppet Show started with him popping out of a coffin surrounded by skeletons and cobwebs singing his controversial Welcome To My Nightmare tune. The rest of the episode consisted of Alice seducing Miss Piggy and singing a surprisingly risqué song to her and Alice trying to convince Kermit to sell his soul to the Devil. I don't know about you guys but when you have heard of a kid show featuring a plot where a beloved character tries to sell his soul to Satan!

-Kenny Rogers performs his popular song "The Gambler" with absolutely no lyrics censored. The same song got heavily censored when it was sung on Alvin and the Chipmunks. The song mentions heavy drinking, smoking cigarettes, and death in rather descriptive non-subtle detail. The song literally ends with the titular gambler character dying in his sleep. A large portion of the tune also consists of Kenny Rogers outright giving his audience gambling advice! Who would expect to find gambling advice on a children's only show? Nobody! THAT'S WHO!?

-Loretta Lynn sings "One's On the Way" which was literally a song that was from start to finish about pregnancy and nothing else. She even goes as far as to blatantly allude to contraception towards the end of the song.

-Rowlf the Dog plays a tune called "The Tit Willow" on the piano but can't stop laughing every time he sings the word "tit" much to the dismay of the resident prude at the Muppet theater, Sam the Eagle.

-Some jokes made not-so-subtle allusions to profanity such as "What do you get when you cross an elephant and a rhino? Elephino!". If you don't get it, it's supposed to be a pun on "hell if I know," btw.

-The Koozebanian Mating Ritual. The Muppets did a sketch about two aliens having sex...…...'nuff said.

-The entire character of Crazy Harry would most likely not fly on a kid's only show. You know why? He's obviously supposed to be a terrorist! The entire concept of the character was the fact that he was a mentally ill guy who loved to blow up random objects and even people. Yup, sounds like a terrorist to me!

There are countless other examples of adult Muppet humor I can think of but the bottom line is, what's wrong with Brian Henson making a movie like the Happyime Murders? The Muppets aren't supposed to be kid's stuff already! GROW UP PEOPLE!?